The Bay List with Rafael Casal and Franklin Leonard

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The Bay List is official, ya'll! And you've come to the right place to find out all about it (how it was conceived, how it was formed, who it will help, and how it will work). We sit down with writer/director/actor (and one of our favorite return guests) Rafael Casal, and film and tv producer (and creator of the original Black List), Franklin Leonard, while at a Screenwriter's Salon event in Berkeley a few months ago. And now that it's live, we can finally share how excited we are for this opportunity for writers and creative folks in the Bay Area!

Not only will you hear how Rafa and Franklin first met and how the Bay List came to be, but you'll get some screenwriting tips, hear their thoughts on what has happened to the industry since last year's strike, learn how Rafa became obsessed with horses, and find out which movie from the 90s Franklin thinks never got the respect it deserves (and the non-surprising reason why).

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